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Posted by: Carol ® 2000/09/01, 16:57:10 Author Profile |
U.S.-Funded Nuclear Sub Facilities Open in Russia's Far East VLADIVOSTOK, Sep 1, 2000 -- (Agence France Presse) Two centers for storing radioactive waste from Russian nuclear submarines, built with money provided by the United States, were opened Friday by U.S. Energy Secretary Bill Richardson in the Primorsk region of Russia's Far East. The new storage and disposal facilities costing several hundred million dollars were assigned to Russia's Pacific Fleet by the U.S. government under bilateral strategic arms' limitation agreements. The ceremony unveiling the new facilities in the Bays of Chazhma and Konyushkov comes at a time of heightened concern over radiation hazards posed by Russia's nuclear fleet in the wake of last month's sinking of the Kursk submarine. The Norwegian ecologist group Bellona said earlier this week that daily readings taken in the Barents Sea since August 12, when the Kursk sank in still unexplained circumstances, showed its two reactors had not leaked. Richardson was due to leave for Sakhalin late Friday where he will attend a meeting of U.S. and Russian oil and gas chiefs. He will then fly on to Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsk where an agreement is expected to be signed Monday on the disposal of liquid radioactive waste at the SRZ-49 defense plant, Interfax reported. Richardson will also visit the Russian nuclear submarine fleet in Kamchatka where a third radioactive waste storage facility, similar to those opened in Primorsk Friday, is planned with additional funds earmarked in the U.S. budget. ((c) 2000 Agence France Presse)
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Posted by: Scott ® 2000/09/05, 20:46:31 Author Profile |
I don’t like the fact that part of my paycheck is taken from me by the US government and used to clean up Russia’s messy nuclear dumps. If Russia wants nukes, that’s fine with me, but I feel they should be responsible for the total cost of ownership – which includes disposal. Russia manages to find money to build new Topol nuclear missiles to nuke me, but can’t find money to clean up their own mess. I don’t like the fact that my own government is simultaneously making life safer for Russians and more dangerous for me by relieving Russia of financial burdens related to disposal, so they can enhance their offensive nuclear power. The thing I find most galling is that I’m force to pay part of the bill to make my life more perilous. I will say that I grudgingly admire Russian politicians for their skill in convincing American politicians that this is all in America’s best interests. |
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Posted by: Carol ® 2000/09/07, 08:54:32 Author Profile |
http://search.ft.com/search/multi/globalarchive.jsp?docId=000907002310&query=russia&resultsShown=20&resultsToRequest=100 Can't maintain what's already there, but building more. |
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Posted by: Carol ® 2000/09/01, 16:37:42 Author Profile |
http://www.nandotimes.com/noframes/story/0,2107,500245883-500364625-502149523-0,00.html Vodka, brake fluid, perfume: All's fair game for some thirsty Russians
NICOLAS MILETICH, Agence France-Presse MOSCOW (September 1, 2000 12:35 a.m. EDT http://www.nandotimes.com) - Russians are fabled for their lust for vodka, but many also quench their thirst for liquor with less traditional beverages such as perfume, brake liquid or disinfectant, blithely ignoring the risk of death. In early July, a small woodcutters' party in the Siberian forest ended in tragedy. Ten people died from swallowing an explosive concoction of 90 percent proof alcohol diluted with brake liquid. Interviewed by police, a survivor of the drinking bout explained that the lumberjacks were dozens of kilometers (miles) away from the nearest village, had nothing else to water down the pure alcohol and were desperate for a drink. Brake liquid, apparently sought after by connoisseurs, had already caused four fatalities a month before in the region. A bottle of vodka costs around 60 rubles in the shops, around $2. That is too expensive for some who turn to moonshine or any other alcohol-based liquid. In Russian cities, drinkers appreciate Esculape disinfectant (made from 90 percent proof alcohol), which costs half the price of vodka. Another popular product, say perfume shop assistants, is "Rose Water", a 40 percent eau de Cologne that is a cheap buy. Others prefer anti-freeze. On ships, sailors often knock back methylated spirits meant for the upkeep of the engines. Some die, others go blind. There is an unusually high tolerance in Russia toward heavy drinkers. Popular criticism of former president Boris Yeltsin had nothing to do with his vodka consumption, seen as perfectly normal by most of his compatriots. Foreigners are not so understanding. The director of the Russian space agency's flight control center, Vladimir Lobachev, spent a night in jail after being discovered drunk on a beach near Cape Canaveral, Florida last year, just as a Russian astronaut was blasting off onboard the U.S. shuttle Discovery. Russians' legendary resistance to alcohol was illustrated when a driver was arrested in the central region of Kazan with 12 grams of alcohol in his blood, more than twice the level seen as deadly (about five grams). "Sooner or later, Russia will learn to drink and the people will stop drowning themselves in alcohol", the Monitor weekly from Nizhny-Novgorod assured optimistically in a recent issue. But in the meantime, there are new products on the market that soften the effects of over-consumption, notably a vodka with secret ingredients, "which does not give a hangover," according to its manufacturers. Those who are skeptical about this miracle vodka can buy cans of brine, a mixture that indisputably helps to restore one from the ravages of drink. Or why not go into home production? A 190-page manual "Samogon and home brewed vodkas," sold at Moscow bookshops for less than a $1, explains step-by-step how to build your own still and prepare 500 recipes for vodka and samogon (home-made alcohol flavored with dill, terragon or horseradish, made from beetroot, potatoes or sugar). Two recipes grab the eye: "fast vodka," ready in two hours (for emergencies) and "love vodka" (ginger, celery, nutmeg...) supposed to have powerful aphrodisiac qualities. |
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Posted by: Mojo Mike ® 2000/09/10, 11:20:14 Author Profile |
The English is so bad at this site. Anyone that wasn't raised as a hillbilly would have difficulty. Sorry to hear anyone died from a need of a drink. I love the smell of brake fluid. First time I ever heard of anyone drinking it. My grandmother was a moonshiner in the 30's. There is a certain element of pride that going into quality moonshine. I am not fond of corn liquer. It has a unique harsh taste. That my pallet can no longer handle. Although I have often thought of making brandy. If anyone ever decides to make a still. Please use either glass or stainless steel, forget the copper. Related link: Hillbilly moonshine Related link: http://www.ipass.net/~mhf/still.htm |
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Posted by: kate ® 2000/09/01, 12:38:00 Author Profile |
Just wanted to share this link because there are many of us here who sometimes may need a technical book. The prices are good and they have a good selection. I ordered 3 books from them and they are prompt with response. http://www.opamp.com/ Kate. |
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Posted by: et ® 2000/09/01, 13:38:39 Author Profile |
They have been a very good technical book store in the Los Angeles area for many years. I was not aware that they now have an Internet site, but it is a logical and intelligent decision for a specialized book store. With best wishes,
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Posted by: toyman ® 2000/09/01, 10:23:42 Author Profile |
Thanx to the new Russian "democratic reformatory forces". They know what they've done! They approved the up-to-date "shrink away with horror progression" technology in Russia, then they would use it in China or India, it depends on where the next place should be selected by IMF for the "market transformation and market reforms". Hope our Comrades in China will never rise a bait. MOSCOW. Sept 1 (Interfax) - The average figure for Russia's
Guess, how long it would take to return even to the 10 year ago level? |
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Posted by: Incognito ® 2000/09/05, 12:40:56 Author Profile |
Thanks God! The less idiots the better! |
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Posted by: kate ® 2000/09/06, 10:23:36 Author Profile |
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Posted by: Incognito ® 2000/09/06, 17:50:04 Author Profile |
You'd better rename this message board to "Message board of Russian Anti-Semites and their friends". You cannot admit your own fault in collapse of the nation. Neither you can see the changes in the world nor historical necessity. But instead you always try to answer two old questions "Why is guilty?" and "What to do?" My best wishes in searching for the answer. You'll find the answers in coffin. You got to entirely disrespect yourself to chat on this moderated message board. That's how Russian understand the very basic concept of "freedom of speech". WE'LL F@@@ RUSHKA OFF!!! |
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Posted by: kate ® 2000/09/07, 15:48:28 Author Profile |
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Posted by: Olga ® 2000/09/07, 17:54:20 Author Profile |
I started to hear it a few years ago. That is the new nickname for Russia that some ex-FSU citizens are using. Olga |
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Posted by: kate ® 2000/09/08, 06:27:03 Author Profile |
How did it originate I wonder? Kate. |
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Posted by: Oksana ® 2000/09/13, 02:52:07 Author Profile |
Rashka originates from English word Russia. Some as "renty" - parents, "shoosy" - shoose, etc. :o) |
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Posted by: kate ® 2000/09/13, 07:42:12 Author Profile |
I told you once upon a time that I was at least 82 years old....Old folks only use jargon that they had back in their time and back in my time nobody called !moi! "Rashka". "Shoozy" - yes. "Feisom ob teibl" - yes, but "rashka" - no. Also I remember this: - Jopsy ye? - Tilki Tekhasy. - Yak saiz? - Tridtsaty vtorii. - Zavertukhaite in zelofanum. ============= When you get old, you get old! My son is 12 today. What do you expect? :o) Kate.
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Posted by: toyman ® 2000/09/08, 11:41:24 Author Profile |
who are well-known under the handle UTUGI (smoothing-iron). The background goes to the hotel "ROSSIA" which is close to the Red Square,- the place where they had the business and called this place RUSHKA. The word is ugly and stupid like the rest of UTUGI. |
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Posted by: kate ® 2000/09/08, 15:42:01 Author Profile |
The word is stupid. Kate. |
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Posted by: Olga ® 2000/09/08, 14:11:14 Author Profile |
I mostly heard it from people from Moscow or St.Petersburg. Olga |
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Posted by: toyman ® 2000/09/08, 14:17:01 Author Profile |
Never heard this word from my St.Pete's countrymen. I'm trying to cure of saying that sponger-word my Moscow friends. And it works! |
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Posted by: Olga ® 2000/09/08, 14:22:22 Author Profile |
"rezet sluh", slishkom uzh zvuchit prenebrezitel'no. I know for sure that "Incognito" and "Mr.M" is the same person, because of the way he uses this word, even the sentences are built the same way. Olga |
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Posted by: RUSSO ® 2000/09/10, 21:41:51 Author Profile |
they use it here in America quite widely. RUSSO |
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Posted by: Olga ® 2000/09/11, 02:54:18 Author Profile |
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Posted by: RUSSO ® 2000/09/12, 21:26:28 Author Profile |
do not go to bars alone, or they're more polite to women, or may be both. I have heard a lot. RUSSO |
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Posted by: Olga ® 2000/09/13, 01:38:11 Author Profile |
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Posted by: Olga ® 2000/09/13, 01:41:01 Author Profile |
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Posted by: RUSSO ® 2000/09/13, 11:02:01 Author Profile |
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Posted by: Olga ® 2000/09/13, 16:26:31 Author Profile |
Since you mentioned bars in San Diego. I was in La Jolla once (we took a week vacation). One day me and my husband went to the local liqior store to buy some cognac and we were basically interrogated by another customer about "where is the accent coming from" and "how comes the INS lets so many "f...ing foreigners" in these days", etc. I thought it was just an isolated incident, but then I went to the supermarket to get some change and as soon as I opened my mouth the salesperson gave that look and started to ignore me, while talking to other customers. I felt bad about it. Then we drove to San Diego and I was even afraid to ask for the directions at first, but it seems that San Diego was more tolerant to my accent, than La Jolla. Olga |
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Posted by: RUSSO ® 2000/09/13, 17:10:15 Author Profile |
for me, traditionally conservative South is much more friendly to Russians that La Jolla or Coronado, the palce when many brave Marine and Navy miltaries officers are retired. I know this audience very well. The better nest for shawinism could not be imagined. Probably only lawyers are comparable. RUSSO |
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Posted by: kate ® 2000/09/08, 15:45:32 Author Profile |
than, "Incognito" and "Mr.M" are/is not of the Russian origin otherwise he/she wouldn't use this derogative term when referring to Russians. Well, at least if my observation is correct, I am glad that this "rediska" is not Russian. Less shame. Kate. |
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Posted by: Michelle ® 2000/09/10, 15:26:39 Author Profile |
he's certainly not the only one who thought it. Just from the one message title, "Thanks God!" it seemed very obvious to me that this person was not a native English speaker. Also, I think that it is extremely unlikely that an American would know what the term "Rushka" means or that it's a derogatory term - I actually wondered if it was supposed to be a term of endearment when I read it the first time. About Incognito and USA Superiority, they do have something in common - they both are non-Americans posing as their worst stereotype of an American, but unless USA Superiority moved to San Francisco, they are not the same person.
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Posted by: Olga ® 2000/09/11, 02:59:29 Author Profile |
what is the native English speaker would say instead of "Thanks God"? Should he use "Thank you Lord"? Olga |
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Posted by: RUSSO ® 2000/09/12, 21:31:32 Author Profile |
which probaly diffres from "Thanks", sounds more official. Another reason, not me thank God, but who is listening me must do ;-) RUSSO |
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Posted by: et ® 2000/09/11, 04:11:20 Author Profile |
"Thank God", which is close to "Thanks God", but the use of the plural "Thanks" in this context is one of the many indications that English is a second language for him. Another - less probable - phrase would be, "Thanks be to God!" Also, as you said, some people might use the phrase, "Thank you, Lord". With best wishes,
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Posted by: RUSSO ® 2000/09/12, 21:56:37 Author Profile |
but it is inetersting why the plural is not used. We say "Thanks, Larry", but "Thank you, Larry". I also mentioned ending "th" or "eth" like "He loveth you" assuming that this is an old form. RUSSO |
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Posted by: et ® 2000/09/12, 22:40:07 Author Profile |
it is correct to use "Thank God" is that it is a contraction from the original version, "We should thank God for this". The British have a curse (swear word) that is also an interesting contraction. They will sometimes say "Blimey!" as a swear word, especially when surprised. This originated several hundred years ago as "God Blind Me!" It became common over a long time to shorten this phrase to "Gor Blimey!" and then it eventually became "Blimey!". With best wishes,
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Posted by: Evil Croco ® 2000/09/10, 20:39:09 Author Profile |
"Incognito"="Mr.M" is not "USA Superiority". He is originally from Russia.
Have a nice day!!! )))))))
Related link: Info about Incognito Related link: http://www.anyboard.net/soc/russianfriends/posts/27621.html |
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Posted by: et ® 2000/09/06, 13:13:31 Author Profile |
another individual. He seems to be just as irrational as our previous visitor, but looking at the writing it is a different person. Actually, from the vocabulary, grammar, and sentence structure, it appears to me that English is a second language for "Incognito". If I were to guess his/her origins, I would suspect he/she is Russian/Slavic because the linguistic mistakes are ones that I have seen commonly made by those whose first language is Slavic in origin. With best wishes,
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Posted by: RUSSO ® 2000/09/06, 17:11:53 Author Profile |
whether you could distinct a Slav from say, an Estonian, or a Lithunian, or an Armenian, or a Chechen, or just a Russian speaking Jew considering his mistakes in English. Could you? What I can say, that assuming his total debilism, I'd rather assume he is of a non-Slavic origin.
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Posted by: Evil Croco ® 2000/09/06, 14:04:26 Author Profile |
This is a highly disturbed individual, known on several Russian-related forums around. He also goes under "Mr.M" nick. He is fat, loosing hair, character who has terrible luck with women. I think looking at his first couple of posts it becomes kind of clear what is the main reason.
100% of his messages are offensive to someboby/something. It seems that he has pleasure in confrontation, using swearing and barking towards opponents or somebody/something being discussed.
He appeared on the board I was reading at the moment when the discussion was about US, so he generated a line of posts cursing US polititians, stupid Americans and especially "all those different race people", who "get into schools on affirmative action", etc. etc. "Monkeys" was one of the rare publically accepted words in there, not to comment the meaning.
After cursing the US (it was on Russian speaking board), he certainly figured the most direct way to insult the "locals": he started cursing Russia. Keeping the same way of expression and the vocabulary. Actually, he will curse everything you say, you can explain any scientific fact - he will tell you that you are stupid and it is all wrong.
Anyway.
Have a nice day!!! )))))))
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Posted by: RUSSO ® 2000/09/06, 17:23:16 Author Profile |
what was that question on Physics you spent 4 pages to prove? RUSSO |
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Posted by: Evil Croco ® 2000/09/06, 19:51:20 Author Profile |
The physics textbook (9-10 grade?) says that average human body dissipates about 700 Wt. Mr. Smart @ss claimed that it was at least a typo, so it had to be 0.7 Wt. So it was fun to show step by step that both of his estimations were BS. It took 4 pages, but I even had pictures and formulas in it :))) Well, in such cases you really must go step by step, proving every single statement.
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Posted by: Evil Croco ® 2000/09/06, 20:01:46 Author Profile |
The reason I recalled the text book number was the discussion about movie "Matrix". Remember? Those machines used humans as energy source. I made a remark that in fact it would be possible; getting 700 Wt out of chemical energy is not a bad output. So that movie was not stupid at all.
We better be careful with progress, you know :))
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Posted by: et ® 2000/09/06, 20:20:43 Author Profile |
The energy release from the human body has two components - the "latent heat" and the "sensible heat". One is energy removed from the body by energy rejected from the body to the surrounding air. The other is energy removed from the body by evaporation of moisture, either at the skin (sweat) or in moisture evaporated in the lungs and carried away in the breath exhalation. The ratio of these two forms of energy removal varies with the ambient temperature and with the humidity. For the purpose of sizing aircraft air conditioning systems, we use "room temperature" and "normal humidity" as the design point. Under those conditions, an average human being "at rest" (not doing some physical activity) will reject about 70 watts of energy that will need to be removed to maintain a constant temperature. The rest of the energy produced by the body is carried away by the moisture evaporation and does not directly affect the energy balance of the aircraft interior. With a nerdy grin,
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Posted by: Evil Croco ® 2000/09/06, 20:47:23 Author Profile |
Certainly, it depends on so many factors. So the number is the estimate. It all ads up as "energy out", one can try to figure how to collect the maximum energy from such output. :))
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Posted by: RUSSO ® 2000/09/07, 12:08:39 Author Profile |
the main reason people can withstand this is almost zero humidity, in Russian "banya" we can barely tolerate 50C. The backslash of the sauna, as you pointed out, is that such low humidity can kill lung cells very quickly, so people should use special moisterizing breathing equipment. We have in our company so called "dry room" to seal some dried bilogicals w/o access to moisture. I must tell'ya, it is hard to breath there more than 5 minutes even temperature is only about 20C (am I telling proprietary "know-how" there, o Gosh! -;) RUSSO |
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Posted by: Evil Croco ® 2000/09/06, 14:14:43 Author Profile |
Now, after all these comments from Tom and Anya I have to go back few times and correct my gramma. :)))) Did I pass the Engish test? :)))
Have a nice day!!! )))))))
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Posted by: et ® 2000/09/06, 15:00:20 Author Profile |
My comment about his errors in the use of English were not made to be critical - as bad as his English may be it is still much better than anything I could write in Russian. I only mentioned the mistakes in language because it was an indication to me that this was not the same person as "USA Superiority". *That* idiot also had a number of errors in his use of the language, but they were *different* errors. Also, as I said in the previous message, it appeared to me that even though "Incognito" has been attacking Russia, he is probably Russian himself. Thanks for confirming my suspicion. With best wishes,
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Posted by: RUSSO ® 2000/09/06, 17:19:40 Author Profile |
Being a former SU citizen one time and speaking Russian language by no means automatically make smbd Russian. See my previous comments. Regards,
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Posted by: Olga ® 2000/09/06, 17:37:46 Author Profile |
distinguish between Russian Russian and Russian speaking person from Russia or from FSU. When I was getting the Citizenship here, INS worker had trouble with geographical location of the Azerbaijan. I a |