Posted by: Jim Heller 3 ®
01/18/2004, 02:38:27
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I've got a friend with a boat. No one knows about it because it's none of their business. Come on, now.
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Posted by: JHB ®
01/18/2004, 04:13:27
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Jim,If I published his sailing schedule, the name of his personal doctor who accompanies him everywhere, and his younger son's drug problem, then that would be an invasion of privacy. But I don't. John.
Modified by JHB at Sun, Jan 18, 2004, 04:14:20
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Posted by: PatD ®
01/18/2004, 05:00:09
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....the name of his personal doctor who accompanies him everywhere.....
I seem to remember that he didn't like doctors much when he was younger,but then he never cared for lawyers either.Now his closest advisors appear to be lawyers, & sheeit, he's got himself a personal quack, just like the King of Saudi.
I guess it's just another one of those impenetrable lessons in not judging the master.
Shame about his son, but shit happens even in the best regulated households; just goes to show what fate awaits those Lord of the Universes who turn their back on the trip. He ought to know, after all he told us we'd turn into rotting vegetables if we ever left him. Having left himself behind many years ago,he might be getting worried about mortality, & the prospect of having to face the Infinite Being with his account of what he's done with his life.
Heh,heh.
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Posted by: Kafa Ratha ®
01/18/2004, 07:38:32
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What a shame for those kids to have been raised in such a disfunctional home. I wonder if ever any of them will break away and speak out. Or have they been ordered to sign a no talk clause as well. What a hell they all must be living in. And to think there was a time that I wished I was one of "His" kids. What a mess. Rotting vegetables for sure! And will Rawat try and pass the mission on to Amar? I heard he is the special one. The more I hear about the family - the more he sounds like a Mafia Don.
Yeah, he must be thinking about death a lot. Just how much more cognac can his liver take? How many more ciggies can his heart take?
The first time I saw him , he told this story about a miser trying to get into heaven. The angel asks him what he did good to be allowed into heaven. He answered that he had given 10 cents to a begger, 5 cents to an orphan and 10 cents to a widow. The angel says to God, "what should I do?" God says "give him his quarter back and tell him to go to hell."
What will Rawat get back? 40 tons of rice?
Sad, sad, sad. He could have really done some good with his life. Look at the wake of dirt and rotton vegetables he leaves in his wake. The piles of heart ache. The ruined lives of sincere people that put their faith in him.
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Posted by: Jim ®
01/19/2004, 02:23:33
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If I published his sailing schedule, the name of his personal doctor who accompanies him everywhere, and his younger son's drug problem, then that would be an invasion of privacy. But I don't. 
I was kidding of course. But, seriously now, I'm not sure that even publishing this information above, if it were true or if you really had it (obviously, you're kidding too), would be wrong. Well, it might certainly be an "invasion of privacy" but the question arises, just how much privacy should a fraud artist like Rawat enjoy? In my view, very little.
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Posted by: JHB ®
01/19/2004, 04:16:21
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Well, I don't know his sailing schedule, the doctor is apparently a nice guy, and Amar has hopefully got over his drug habit. Of course, if Amar joins the family business, and especially if he takes over as Satguru, then it's no holds barred!John.
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Posted by: Jeff Stewart ®
01/19/2004, 10:41:22
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Amar? I thought he was just a kid?
Is life around the Master that bad that his kids need to escape with drugs?
Aren't they meditating on the most holiest of holy Knowledges and obtaining their peace from that?
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Posted by: Cynthia ®
01/19/2004, 19:56:43
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It's not unusual, but actually quite common for the children of addicts to become addicts themselves.
And the one's that don't become addicts are still affected with the symptoms of the dysfunctionality of a parent(s) that is an alcoholic or a drug addict. That's in the real world.
I can't imagine what that particular home has been like given their father is the Lord and Master, and a megolomaniac and a narcissist. Wow!
I don't pity them though. The choices they make in their adult lives are up to them.
Plus, they've been living off the fat of the premies their whole lives! Waited on hand and foot. So, they've got the money+ for Betty Ford or any other clinic to get themselves well if they want to.
"Hello, my name is _________. I'm an alcoholic/drug addict. My father is the Lord of the Universe." Yikes!!!!
Cynthia
Modified by Cynthia at Mon, Jan 19, 2004, 20:02:53
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Posted by: Anthony ®
01/19/2004, 22:21:37
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Yes, Amar seems to be the chosen one.
He appeared in a video shown at the Nottingham Event in 2001, and had a talking role. He was giving generic type satsang, and I thought he had a (very) mild charisma, but nothing to write home about. It occurred to me that if he was the best of the bunch in the succession stakes, then the future of the Rawat dynasty looked decidedly shaky.Some of the videos presented had been made by Wadamar Productions, and the stuff was so incomparably and unbearably naff, we (some friends and I) were laughing openly about it in the corridor outside later. The only talented one seems to be Daya, who has a pleasant voice, like about a million girl band clones viewed daily on Brit TV. Am I right in thinking Wadi is Premlata, or is Wadi Hansi? In which case, what are Premlata and/or Hansi doing these days?
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Posted by: JHB ®
01/19/2004, 23:31:28
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But I've no idea what any of them are doing now, professionally or educationally.John.
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Posted by: Cynthia ®
01/19/2004, 23:45:06
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Hi Anthony,
I know you addressed this to Jeff, but Wadi or "Wadie-Sue" is Premlata the eldest child. She got married last year and the LOTU officiated at the ceremony.
I know nothing about those now grown-up kids except that a few years ago I saw a video or maybe it was a Satfeed, where Daya sang "Teach me Devotion," (One Foundation folks were backing her up and well in the background) and she was dressed in a very seductive dress, making eyes with her dad. The weirdness of her singing about devotion directly to her own father didn't set very well with me.
My question is this: where the hell is their MOTHER????? And why isn't/hasn't she protecting her children from their father?
UGH. It's all so sick.
I think Daya has a "nice" voice, but I agree with your characterization of it. Just one in a million of those girls in "girl bands" and if you've heard one, you've heard them all. Bland. It becomes just background noise, elevator music. No originality or real talent, especially in these days where technology can provide anyone a good voice.
Give me Sarah Vaughn, Ella Fitzgerald, Lady Day, Betty Carter and that crowd -- any day of the week! I was fortunate to have seen some of them live before they all died.
Cynthia
Modified by Cynthia at Mon, Jan 19, 2004, 23:49:40
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Posted by: Anthony ®
01/20/2004, 00:35:23
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Hi, Cynth,I was just speaking to everyone.. Yes, without being bitchy, and allowing for her (I think genuine) sincerity, it is difficult not to say that Daya has had a lucky break in having a Satguru for her dad, in allowing her to dress in nice black satin frocks and have a monumentally expensive restaurant named in her honour in Australia where she can flaunt it with her rich kid posse. Wadi and Amar can fuck around making 'nice' videos which any kid doing some low-grade confetti vocational ticket in a sixth form college in UK would scrape a pass with. Looking at Satpal's website, and seeing this fat-faced bald moustachioed kind of B movie king type bloke from a Bollywood version of the Mahabratta, seated alongside a podgy ex-Lord of Music who looks like he would be more at home selling carpets door to door, one can only reflect whimsically on the machinations of destiny which allow families to rise from the dirt track to international (cosmic) celebrity then back to the dirt again probably within 3 generations. I guess it's like that satsang story about the king who ends up sitting in the forest wondering if he's a king or a beggar, then to cap it all, a wild elephant comes along and either jogs the banana leaf on which he is eating his chapatti, or shits in it. Just a Lila, though (thank Buddha/Christ/Krishna/Tulsidas).
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Posted by: Anthony ®
01/20/2004, 00:58:27
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'Give me Sarah Vaughn, Ella Fitzgerald, Lady Day, Betty Carter and that crowd -- any day of the week!'Yes - spot on.
I turned on the telly the other day, to be faced with Edith Piaff standing under a spotlight on stage, in a shapeless 40's dress, her arms dangling at her sides, giving it Hymne à l'Amour and my hair almost stood on end.
My doctor friend tells me he helped assist her in hospital during her final illness. I suppose it's just feasible. The program was on the human voice, and in that instalment they had done female singers like Ella Fitzgerald, Billy Holiday and so on. Pity to miss it. Though I've seen it all before, naturally, I can never not watch it all again. The next instalment was largely the male voice, and they did Caruso - how he was the first pop star on vinyl. Everybody bought him. Really great voice, too.
Then they played Caruso singing the Italian original of It's Now or Never (yes, I know it wasn't called that), and showed how Elvis had been deeply influenced by Caruso in his version.
Well, fuck a duck - it was obvious when you considered it. Then they showed Mario Lanza, and described how he basically cracked up and ended up in B movies.
The explanation by some savant type Italian voice teacher was that the personality must always come first in a singer, before the actual voice training. *Expression* is the essential (as IMHO, in all art) which precedes formal technique, though formal training thereafter is also highly useful.
Thus, saying Mario Lanza succumbed to great lack of confidence at some point, because he wasn't expressing his own identity (inmost being or part), just mimicking others. They finished with a great and forever memorable clip of Dylan singing Love Minus Zero Over No Limit onstage in his black leather jacket and hair under the stage spotlight, in his inimitable way, and it gave me the same frisson as when I saw him in the flesh perform it during his original UK tour of 1965. Do you still sing? Maybe you should do a CD, and we could all listen to it. Cheers, Hope you're well, Anthony
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Posted by: jlr ®
01/20/2004, 02:20:41
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Amar has to be at least into his mid to late teens by now. I remember hearing about Wadi having some problems with drugs and men. Too much indulgence for so many years has greatly affected these children.
How times flies....
j
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Posted by: JHB ®
01/20/2004, 04:57:57
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So he's not a teenager!These offspring are all adults now, and unless they demonstrate that they can support themselves without living off premies' donations (and that includes all the business interests donated to Rawat), then they are a fair topic of this forum. John.
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Posted by: Jeff Stewart ®
01/20/2004, 05:25:21
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Maybe Maharaji or Prem Rawat should try to establish a peace you can feel without drugs in his own home before he tries selling to the World. Isn't that what they call "by example"?
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Posted by: hilltop ®
01/18/2004, 11:57:03
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Posted by: NAR ®
01/19/2004, 00:34:39
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Ok...... here it is premies.... for those that say, "...Well if he's got one why is it moored on the Atlantic coast when he lives on the Pacific coast?" I have got an answer. Whether M does this or not, he certainly can utilize the awe-inspiring contraption.... the CANAL!
The way a boat can go from the east to the west and back to the east coast is called..... wait for it, now...... transiting the Panama Canal. I know this geographic tidbit is hard to believe, but REALLY, it DOES exist. I've seen it with my own eyes.
The canal was built by some wizards that referred to themselves as "engineers." These wizard-engineers were really good at thing called "construction" and they were able, by the power of their own minds, to devise a method of digging a canal from the east coast of panama to the west coast of panama. By the use of the power they refer to as "mathematics," they were able to devise a method by which the water would change elevation across panama...... ALL without drowning the panamanians, themselves. That was just the beginning of the magic, but it's all that you need to know, for now.
I know that this is a really hard-to-believe thing, but it really happened, I've seen it myself..... without the need for pressing a single, solitary eyeball. I, also, know it's hard to believe that something was "made" without any input from M and his inventive spirit, but it IS true. Ask Padre Mickey, he'll back me up on this one!
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