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Re: Re: Can you cancel a Oom Yung Doe contract?
Re: Re: Can you cancel a Oom Yung Doe contract? -- Robert Hamburger Post Reply Top of thread Forum
Posted by: Frank
03/04/2003, 10:50:11
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I would like to see contracts not used as well. But the reality is their are people out their that can't (no matter how you try to please them) keep their word. Its everywhere, buying a car, buying a house, a course of instruction etc. Contracts were designed to protect both parties. In the USA if someone doesn't like something...they just feel they can walk away from it. No consequence. Look at the professional sports industry. They break contracts all the time. How many people go to college, enroll for several courses stop going to class and don't have to pay? I don't feel this is right either. Peolpe make a commitment ...stick to it.

Maybe the instrcutors should enforce their contracts. Take people to court, ruin their credit for bad debt. Like other business do when they accru bad debt.

Do you think our country would be better off if people stayed by their commitment?

According to the contract, as I read it. At the bottom it states something to the effect if the school changes services, times etc. Student will agree to these changes. I am sure you read this and agreed to it.

The contract is not voidable unless you meet one of the criteria laid out in the termination clause. If you don't meet the criteria, you can't break the contract. I took the instance I heard as representative of OYD's approach to contracts. Perhaps I was wrong, but I doubt it. The whole concept of contracts is bogus in my mind. If your training is as wonderful as you say, you shouldn't need to have one. Also, for whatever reason, if a person decides the training isn't right for them, they should be able to leave, end of story. I served out my year, and then didn't re-up, because I did make a commitment. Even when I felt the organization wasn't living up to its end of the bargain, it was about my integrity, not OYD's.

:=:-You state one one occasion you heard something, then state the instructors don't let people out of the contract. Which is it one time or all the time? I wasn't there to hear the occasion you are speaking of. I have heard others wanting to leave using bogus statements. I even heard one student say he was moving out of the state, the Instructor let him out of contract. I saw the student about 2 weeks ago and I asked him about this. He said he made up the excuse because he didn't want to train anymore. I ask him why he lied. He said no big deal. I am sure many people who stop their training are just like this individual. Like to make excuses and can't own up.
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:=:=Well, I did on one occassion hear a pretty heated phone conversation while I was doing my blackbelt only lesson between an instuctor and a student who wanted to quit.
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:=:=There were guilt trips, shaming, and at the end a refusal to allow the individual to quit unless they came in and met with the instuctor and a regional.
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:=:=So, they don't just let people go if they want to go, theres a lot of pressure laid on people to stay, if that one instance was representative.
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:=:=:=:=:=You didn't read your contract very closely. It is void if you move 25 miles away. The Instructor very rarley go after anyone who wants to quit and breaks their contract.
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:=:=:=:=Your right, it is 25 miles.
:=:=:=:= I'm right about both parts






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