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Re: Re: Can you cancel a Oom Yung Doe contract?
Re: Re: Can you cancel a Oom Yung Doe contract? -- Robert Hamburger Post Reply Top of thread Forum
Posted by: Robert Hamburger ®
03/04/2003, 08:29:19

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In addition, I have heard folks on the TMAN board (before it went the way of the dodo due to the OYD debate) and other online martial arts communites complain of not being let out of the contract when they have asked without meeting one of the termination criteria.

The contract is not voidable unless you meet one of the criteria laid out in the termination clause. If you don't meet the criteria, you can't break the contract. I took the instance I heard as representative of OYD's approach to contracts. Perhaps I was wrong, but I doubt it. The whole concept of contracts is bogus in my mind. If your training is as wonderful as you say, you shouldn't need to have one. Also, for whatever reason, if a person decides the training isn't right for them, they should be able to leave, end of story. I served out my year, and then didn't re-up, because I did make a commitment. Even when I felt the organization wasn't living up to its end of the bargain, it was about my integrity, not OYD's.

:=:-You state one one occasion you heard something, then state the instructors don't let people out of the contract. Which is it one time or all the time? I wasn't there to hear the occasion you are speaking of. I have heard others wanting to leave using bogus statements. I even heard one student say he was moving out of the state, the Instructor let him out of contract. I saw the student about 2 weeks ago and I asked him about this. He said he made up the excuse because he didn't want to train anymore. I ask him why he lied. He said no big deal. I am sure many people who stop their training are just like this individual. Like to make excuses and can't own up.
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:=:=Well, I did on one occassion hear a pretty heated phone conversation while I was doing my blackbelt only lesson between an instuctor and a student who wanted to quit.
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:=:=There were guilt trips, shaming, and at the end a refusal to allow the individual to quit unless they came in and met with the instuctor and a regional.
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:=:=So, they don't just let people go if they want to go, theres a lot of pressure laid on people to stay, if that one instance was representative.
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:=:=:=:=:=You didn't read your contract very closely. It is void if you move 25 miles away. The Instructor very rarley go after anyone who wants to quit and breaks their contract.
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:=:=:=:=Your right, it is 25 miles.
:=:=:=:= I'm right about both parts







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